Nikolay & Emanuel Khachaturov of Khachaturov Group
International Religious Freedom Summit 2024
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Leray Heyne 0:00
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Leray Heyne 2:09
Hello, it's Leray Heyne again with the International Religious Freedom Summit, and I am here with two friends from Armenia. And I'm here with Nikolay and his son, Emanuel. Thank you, gentlemen, for sitting down.
Nikolay Khachaturov 2:27
We're thrilled to be here for this meeting. We're very thankful because we have your attention today. Thank you very much.
Leray Heyne 2:36
Thank you. So tell me why you're here. First of all, for your for your country.
Nikolay Khachaturov 2:48
Our country of Armenia today is going through hardships. We just came out of the worst situation. We had losses of land. We lost our homeland. We lost human lives. And today our hope is God. It's our only hope. And the power of God, and through the prayers of our brothers and through their help, we know that God is a God that restores. There's also danger for the borders of Armenia today. Because our our neighboring country, Azerbaijan and their president and their announcements they allow themselves to make such announcements. Which is leading to conclude that not everything is over for them. Even the European Union and the United States of America, and the whole world, condemn it and what they did, are still not satisfied. And the lands that were lost our culture is being destroyed. Our churches are being destroyed. Anything that has national value, our monuments, and the whole world can see this openly. Unfortunately. And we want to protect and raise our voices. So this will reach the hearts of our brothers and sisters. Such approaches have to be stopped. Well that sounds good. So just because this can happen with any country. It's unacceptable. We also thought we lived in safety and this is 21st century and these things are no longer possible. But this life brought us to a test. And each of us has to express ourselves. Either your helper or you're a person or country that helps. Christ unites us all in this issue, we all call upon the name of Jesus. And he's the greatest help that we have, they will speak to the hearts of people, leaders of countries with the nation's and will have a change of circumstances. I believe in this, because our country, our nation has already gone through these tests for 1000s of years, these tests and temptations. Much bigger and mightier nations have tried to destroy Armenia. But where are they now? They no longer exists. Yes, we're small. But we are, we exist. Because this is the grace of God. And Armenia specifically, is designated by God. And these people are God's people. He knows the first Christian nation in the world, except the Christianity as a state religion. And whoever read the Bible, five times Armenia is mentioned. It means Armenia has a special designation for God. God is a faithful God, it is not a person that should lie. It's not a government that shouldn't betray. We believe in the faithfulness of God.
Leray Heyne 7:14
Amen. I want to take what you've just talked about, we'll put it over here and we'll come back to it. Now I want to I want to talk about business. He's gonna tell us a little bit about your many businesses. How many businesses? How many businesses has the Lord blessed you with?
Nikolay Khachaturov 7:39
The Lord has blessed us tremendously. Our businesses catch it through out group as a conglomerate groups. It's one of the largest in Armenia conglomerate groups. We started as developers, real estate developers. Now we have 24 industries in our conglomerate group. We are in industrial business, mining business, we're one of the largest developers in Armenia. We are real estate owners, one of the largest property owners and the Amenia, soon we'll have hospitality hotel businesses we're working on right now opening soon. And these businesses are all fully vertically integrated businesses. So it's an industrial conglomerate business grouping. So we want to be someone that adds value produces in the nations, because God also produces and he multiplies.
Leray Heyne 8:46
Right. So tell us about how your faith is integrated to all of those businesses.
Nikolay Khachaturov 8:55
My faith is integrated. As a matter of fact. I live this.
Leray Heyne 8:56
Right, I love that.
Nikolay Khachaturov 9:02
As a matter of fact, because I have real tangible results to show it. Because I understand how God blesses. People think God blesses you with money from the sky. This is what people think. And this is what's important. But I have different value about this. God blesses you with ideas, wisdom. Because I believe that the wisdom is not generated from my own internal thoughts. They think these ideas and wisdom is from them when in fact it's not the Bible talks about. Thoughts are a spiritual product. How can you differentiate this, your level and understand which one is from God, these thoughts, you need to receive this thoughts, wisdom as wisdom from God not your own ideas or what you thought you're so smart. Right. And you need to make a decision.You need to act after you've made the decision, which will bring consequences. This is something that every Christian businessman needs to understand how God blesses. Yes, of course you need to put up there. But the Bible says we need to write the kingdom of God is taken by force. You need to work hard. But you can also put hard work in the wrong direction when you're putting hard work it has to be in the right direction. First you need to confirm that this is the will of God, what you're doing because if it's in the will of God, the circumstances will bring you to the success. And if it is from God, God will open these doors and miraculously. Of course you need to work or put in the effort. This is one of the key factors of success. But one thing, we need to ask God every time. God, how should I do this? We need to humble ourselves. Instead of being arrogant. Tell God, God show me. So God gave Moses huge work right to do. God also showed Moses how he was going to do it. We need to always understand that we as believers are dependent on God. We're not independent of God. And hardships aren't only when you reach the goal by default Hassan but once you have reached success, that's a different tests. It's a different challenge, right, your character, your relationship with God and protecting what you've already built. These are different skill sets. You need a different approach once you've already reached success, you need to protect it and maintain it.
Leray Heyne 12:58
Yeah.
Nikolay Khachaturov 13:02
And to develop it, multiply it.
Leray Heyne 13:04
Yeah.
Nikolay Khachaturov 13:04
God gave Adam the whole garden of Eden. He says protect it. Even if you have the Garden of Eden and the world but don't know how to protect it. And don't put in tireless work, you will lose whatever you've already success you already have. This is my life experience.
Leray Heyne 13:33
So now I want to bring based on what he was saying, I want to bring this back to Armenia. Do you feel that that's something that you need to protect with the gifts that God gave you.
Nikolay Khachaturov 13:48
Absolutely.
Leray Heyne 13:56
So tell me, tell me and for all business owners. You are using your gifts, your influence and your your wealth to try to save, prereserve and build a nation. Help us understand your heart in that matter.
Nikolay Khachaturov 14:21
The Word of God says God looks at a man's heart, our hearts. From time to time we need to reflect on the desires of our heart. You need to think the desires of my heart that I have, what fruits are these going to bring forth the desires that I have? It's not everything that we can know. But you should have no desire to make intentional mistakes. And I asked God one day just based on how do I not make mistakes, my desires not to be conflicting with your desires. And he spoke with me. He has a simple way, if you're not sure whether this is God's will, ask yourself. What would Jesus do in this situation? What decisions would Jesus make in this particular situation? And I asked? And I received the answer? I answer my own question. And what desire I had did not match with what Jesus would do. And I said, no, I need to change. I need to do what Jesus would do. What happened? Miracles happen. Even though my desire was based on my experience, but what Jesus would do was different. It was based on my knowledge, and it didn't seem smart from a practical perspective, the way that Jesus would do it didn't fit my logic, right. Because Jesus is not led by human logic, the way that we think and perceive the world. But he does it based on justice. Because we as humans, always choose the path that is most beneficial to us and fit our interests and it's the shortest one .
Leray Heyne 16:50
Yeah.
Nikolay Khachaturov 17:02
The least effort. But Jesus, his decisions are always based on being just and righteous. But that's when the supernatural comes into place. God's miracles start working. This is not hard. We just need to humble ourselves. Because there is an internal struggle with our flesh. We have pride.
Leray Heyne 17:36
Amen. So I want you to encourage business owners all around the world. You're using everything that God has given you as a businessman, to help shape your nation. So not just benefiting you, but benefiting the nation God has put you in. So how would you encourage business owners to do the same thing because we think so much about just putting food on the table, putting out kids in college, you go and sell the business and retire.
Nikolay Khachaturov 18:37
The issue is whatever goal that you put in whatever timeframe, that's where you're gonna walk towards and take actions that's the best case scenario. It's important to what goals are you setting? What's your vision? Is your desire and goals only ending with your own desires of what you want your personal consumption. Or do you think beyond so you go from personal consumption to your children's consumption? Or do you think even further from your not just your children's consumption but your grandchildren's consumption? Or do you think even more than your own nation? Expanding further? Or are you thinking about Z nations afterwards? Right? Are you thinking about humanity in general, but everyone starts default from their own personal consumption and living. The bigger the vision that you put the goals that you put, that's who you are, that defines you as a person, your character. And God is seeking seeking such people and such hearts. It might think he doesn't want to go see because these type of people are tools in the hands of God to be used, so he can intervene through these people and do his works as well. Because in this world, God only works through angels and people, he has a will. And his victory is in that, that the people that he chose, and his angels will overcome these issues, in His will. That's when he was glorified. And all of this, success in all of this, is only successful under one condition. Never say that I did it. My wisdom, my strength, my connections, you should always give glory to God. He does not like to share His glory. This is the key success factor as a believer God will walk with you if you glorify him. It's better not that people powerful people walk with you it's better that God walks with you is a greater influence. God is the greatest
Leray Heyne 21:22
Amen. That was a very powerful thing. I want him to close. I want you to look into that camera, and I want you to talk to Christian business owners and give them your last piece of wisdom to encourage them.
Nikolay Khachaturov 21:42
First I welcome all Christian business people whose hearts by belong to Jesus. They have the greatest question in this world? Why am I born? You should ask this question. Why am I born? And first, you came into this world to be saved. And be a reason for salvation for every member of your family member. This is what you should aim for and do everything for. It will be even greater if you think about the salvation of your nation, your community. May be greater if you think about the salvation of humanity and be someone for them to be saved. What is needed for this? Power. Power of the spirit, power of the mind and wisdom and faith that you can do this through Christ. Everyone believes in God, even those who say don't believe in God, know there is God. But they do not believe that God can through them. I want to encourage you that you can do this through Christ. Because it is written that through Jesus Christ, all things are possible. All things means all things. You need to make a decision. What you're going to do, and how far you're going to walk. I want to say that you can. In Jesus name, you can do more through Christ than you believe, then you think. Christ said I shall leave and you will do greater works through the power of the Holy Spirit. And Christ never lied. His words have power. Let the power of His word touch you and your life. In Jesus name.
Leray Heyne 24:24
Amen. Thank you.
